Trying to find the root of this
Trying to find the root of this
Nora just posted this on Facebook. Apparently, Richard was under some amount of criticism regarding the forum in his website.
http://www.gavinorland.org/religion/the ... ns-forums/
http://www.reasonproject.org/forum/view ... 06/#182823
Maybe he thought this forum was doing more harm to the foundation than good?
http://www.gavinorland.org/religion/the ... ns-forums/
http://www.reasonproject.org/forum/view ... 06/#182823
Maybe he thought this forum was doing more harm to the foundation than good?
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Re: Trying to find the root of this
Looked at the links (thanks for them). They have a point. It does depend on what people think the purpose of the forum was though. If it is for academic and intellectual exchange it should have said as much - and it clearly was not. If RD decided he wanted to transform it into that, then we are on to the method and the treatment of people deeply involved there..luckily not me any longer.
Anyway enough on this subject from me for a bit.
Anyway enough on this subject from me for a bit.
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Re: Trying to find the root of this
:pissed:Without quality control, debates will gravitate downwards. Forum posters who evidently have very little life outside the forum – extremely prolific “contributors” who have chosen names such as “Half_Cut”, “Fallible” and “Im_With_Stupid” for themselves – can barge out more occasional posters who do have lives, by insisting on very low standards in their clique. Other posters, rude, coarse individuals, the “voluntarily unemployed” are also free to unload streams of f-words for no good reason except that they feel it makes them look clever – and they will find themselves in majority company.
In the begining there was nothing. Which then exploded.
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How dare they! That's Ratz' remit!SnowLeopard wrote::pissed:Without quality control, debates will gravitate downwards. Forum posters who evidently have very little life outside the forum – extremely prolific “contributors” who have chosen names such as “Half_Cut”, “Fallible” and “Im_With_Stupid” for themselves – can barge out more occasional posters who do have lives, by insisting on very low standards in their clique. Other posters, rude, coarse individuals, the “voluntarily unemployed” are also free to unload streams of f-words for no good reason except that they feel it makes them look clever – and they will find themselves in majority company.
Re: Trying to find the root of this
Who the fuck is Gavin Orland?natselrox wrote:Nora just posted this on Facebook. Apparently, Richard was under some amount of criticism regarding the forum in his website.
http://www.gavinorland.org/religion/the ... ns-forums/
http://www.reasonproject.org/forum/view ... 06/#182823
Maybe he thought this forum was doing more harm to the foundation than good?
As for the second, looks like a complaint from a fundie.
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Re: Trying to find the root of this
The first "criticism" is prudish nonsense. He feels an RD forum should be strictly "academic." The 2nd "criticism" is apparently from a religionist (judging by subsequent responses).natselrox wrote:Nora just posted this on Facebook. Apparently, Richard was under some amount of criticism regarding the forum in his website.
http://www.gavinorland.org/religion/the ... ns-forums/
http://www.reasonproject.org/forum/view ... 06/#182823
Maybe he thought this forum was doing more harm to the foundation than good?
The Politics forum, while unruly, was chocked full of interesting debate and discussion on a variety of subjects. Why should RD fans limit themselves to only scientific debate? Surely the subject of "reason" should touch upon Politics as well, yes?
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Re: Trying to find the root of this
His site has the caption, "No religion doesn't mean no values. On the contrary." Unlikely for a fundie.Matt H wrote:Who the fuck is Gavin Orland?natselrox wrote:Nora just posted this on Facebook. Apparently, Richard was under some amount of criticism regarding the forum in his website.
http://www.gavinorland.org/religion/the ... ns-forums/
http://www.reasonproject.org/forum/view ... 06/#182823
Maybe he thought this forum was doing more harm to the foundation than good?
As for the second, looks like a complaint from a fundie.
Re: Trying to find the root of this
Oh how consistent. Going on about "too much political correctness" but wrinkling their nose over "vulgar" content.natselrox wrote: http://www.gavinorland.org/religion/the ... ns-forums/
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Re: Trying to find the root of this
It's the internet FFS!
He's complaining about bad language?
Did he even notice that the thread he objected to was started by a subsequently banned troll?
No mention of th "no ad-hom" rule though, which is much more rational than "no potty mouth".
Fucking prude.
He's complaining about bad language?
Did he even notice that the thread he objected to was started by a subsequently banned troll?
No mention of th "no ad-hom" rule though, which is much more rational than "no potty mouth".
Fucking prude.
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Re: Trying to find the root of this
I said that about the second guy, not Orland.natselrox wrote:His site has the caption, "No religion doesn't mean no values. On the contrary." Unlikely for a fundie.Matt H wrote:Who the fuck is Gavin Orland?natselrox wrote:Nora just posted this on Facebook. Apparently, Richard was under some amount of criticism regarding the forum in his website.
http://www.gavinorland.org/religion/the ... ns-forums/
http://www.reasonproject.org/forum/view ... 06/#182823
Maybe he thought this forum was doing more harm to the foundation than good?
As for the second, looks like a complaint from a fundie.
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Re: Trying to find the root of this
My hubby, who's never been on any of these forums and doens't even label himself as atheist but is one, said that whenever he hears anything about Richard Dawkins and his foundation, it's talked about like a god hating cult. That's not good PR.
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Re: Trying to find the root of this
Oh look, a Fluffy!natselrox wrote:Nora just posted this on Facebook. Apparently, Richard was under some amount of criticism regarding the forum in his website.
http://www.gavinorland.org/religion/the ... ns-forums/
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Re: Trying to find the root of this
There is a history of people who got banned (or even just suspended) from RDF for bad behavior to run off to their blog or another forum and start bad-mouthing the forum.
Edit: Not to say that there weren't time when things were handled badly because there were. But you do get people who's biggest and best contribution to the forum was to call fellow posters blind idiots - they get banned and then go off whining about how badly they were treated with no mention of their own behavior.
Edit: Not to say that there weren't time when things were handled badly because there were. But you do get people who's biggest and best contribution to the forum was to call fellow posters blind idiots - they get banned and then go off whining about how badly they were treated with no mention of their own behavior.
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Re: Trying to find the root of this
Beat me to it.Sciwoman wrote:There is a history of people who got banned (or even just suspended) from RDF for bad behavior to run off to their blog or another forum and start bad-mouthing the forum.
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